During their private discussion at the White House on Thursday, President Donald Trump and Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell could not agree on the direction of interest rates.
Rather, the Fed and the White House reported that the two leaders appeared to be talking over each other.
Trump continued to press Powell to lower interest rates during the discussion.
“The president did say that he believes the Fed chair is making a mistake by not lowering interest rates, which is putting us at an economic disadvantage to China and other countries, and the president’s been very vocal about that, both publicly and now I can reveal privately as well,” said Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary.
Powell stated that the statistics, not political considerations, would be the basis for the Fed’s decisions.
Powell did not address his expectations for interest-rate policy, the Fed said in a statement, “except to stress that the path of policy will depend entirely on incoming economic information and what that means for the outlook.”
Powell also emphasized that the Fed would use “nonpolitical analysis” when making judgments.
It was the first time the two leaders had met in person since the new administration began.
Trump has been pressuring Powell to lower interest rates for the majority of this year, sometimes in a harsh manner. The Fed chair has been mockingly dubbed “Too Late Powell.”
Trump’s public criticism of Powell is unhelpful, according to economists.
Ethan Harris, a former top economist at Bank of America Securities, stated that “you don’t threaten the central bank if your goal is to get mortgage rates and bond yields down.”
The market has acknowledged that before taking any action, the Fed must observe the impact of Trump’s tariffs on the economy.
“All the administration is accomplishing by complaining about the Fed is reminding people about the political risks to the central bank,” Harris stated.
Trump withdrew his threats to dismiss Powell last month. Additionally, the U.S. Supreme Court hinted earlier in May that Powell would be permitted to stay in office as long as the Fed chair opposed any attempt by Trump to have him removed.
Former Fed Chair Alan Greenspan top official Vince Reinhart stated that he did not believe Powell or Trump desired the meeting.
In response to a query at Powell’s news conference in early May, Reinhart stated that the meeting was “inevitable”.
Powell was questioned about why he hadn’t seen Trump since the day of the inauguration. Powell said that he had never requested a meeting with a president.
“I have no justification for requesting a meeting. Powell stated, “It’s always been the other way [around].”
Reinhart claimed the invitation resulted from reporters at the White House asking why Trump hadn’t asked for the meeting.
Reinhart stated, “I don’t think either party wanted to be there,”
Trump views the level of the central bank’s interest rate as an additional weapon to employ against other nations, as seen by the White House’s statement contrasting the Fed’s benchmark rate with China.
According to Francesco Bianchi, a professor of economics at Johns Hopkins University who researched Trump’s social media attacks on Powell during his first term, Trump frequently claimed that interest rates were a weapon to employ against foreign competitors like the European Union.
In 2017, during his first term in office, Trump appointed Powell as Fed head. When the Fed gradually raised interest rates following the passage of Trump’s tax cut, relations between the two swiftly deteriorated.
Powell was then granted a second four-year term by President Joe Biden, which expires in May of next year.
Since December, the Fed has maintained its benchmark rate between 4.25% and 4.5%. According to economists, the Fed will probably maintain rates at their current level until it becomes less uncertain how the Trump administration’s trade strategy would affect the economy.
Economists warned that uncertainty has only increased in the short term since a U.S. trade court ruled Wednesday that the majority of the administration’s tariffs were invalid. While the White House challenges the decision, an appeals court said Thursday that the tariffs could remain in effect for the time being.

